Pending Siddo's Discord Staff Application
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What's the rush?
Honestly I want to ditto this.
Siddo, as already mentioned before this was posted just 12 days after you resigned(again vompletely,including advisor role), I think that you would remember that many apps took extra time to deliberate when the former staff member resigned so recently, and I think this app is similar enough to be in that same boat. Not only that you still applied specifically for a lead role, and that does require extra deliberation as a whole too. Have patience friend.
What's the hold up?
Everyone relevant to the determination of whether to accept or deny the application at this time has made their opinion known either publicly, privately, or both.
Several members of the community have weighed in. I think the team has everything it needs to make a decision, one way or the other.
It is evident what the public perception is, it is evident what I intend to do, it is evident what problems there are, have been, or could be.
All that's missing is the decision.
I am in no rush, but similarly I see no point to holding off on a decision for reasons stated.
From a place of genuine interest, what benefits do you see coming from not making a decision, one way or the other? I'm open to a different perspective, but in mine I struggle to see a benefit that isn't better achieved by making a decision.
It is somewhat more complicated. Despite that complexity, all of leadership has weighed in already. Admins similarly have been part of the conversation, as have advisors.
As mentioned prior, I think the skepticism and apprehension this application received, is warranted.
But these have all been expressed by the parties that care to express them.
Which, in my view, means that only one things remains: For leadership to decide whether or not - and to what level - to add me to the Discord team.
Fun bonus fact: Most standard applications at Giant's Lair have been accepted within the first 72 hours of being posted, many of which were accepted within the first 36 hours. This applies across new blood and old faces equally.
Today brings this number to 19 days.
I do remember and I am well aware of this.
It is precisely why I said deny it if it is too soon. I do not mind.
If the concern is that it is too soon and my long-term investment is in question, deny it and tell me when to reapply. I do not mind.
If my "hubris" in applying for lead admin has poisoned this application and made it seem like an opportunistic grab for a high level position, deny it and tell me when to apply for mod. I do not mind.
I will accept any outcome without argument or hurt feelings.
With regard to applying specifically for a lead role, yes that absolutely requires deliberation. Leads have already expressed how they feel about this, both here and no doubt in discussions in other channels.
While I cannot see the inner workings of all the staff channels that I do not have access to, I have no doubt there have been deliberations, concerns, and skeptical remarks about myself or the application in admin, advisor, and lead channels. However, I have also explicitly said that even admin is a generous consideration. And that I am fine being put on the team as a moderator.
What deliberations do you believe still need to be done for a decision to be ripe?
I intend to earn lead on my own merit, regardless of where I start. I do not want a nepo role, I want to become lead by virtue of demonstrating that I am the person best suited for it.
I happen to believe that I am well-suited for it. If the team has others in mind for Discord admin or filling out the void left by anna, I have no complaints about this and would do my utmost to support that person in their role. So for clarity's sake: if y'all are eyeing someone else for being made discord admin or even comms lead, I support that wholeheartedly. I'm still going to be aiming to take their place if it ever becomes available.
hey siddo if im gonna give some honest feedback
i agree with you that they know what they wanna do already or probably should, i don't really think you asking for clarification or a decision is that insane but i personally would have just responded to noct's dm again from 4 days ago or whatever he said and been like "yall done deciding yet?", not to hide the fact that you are asking for an update but i don't think public pressure feels good for anyone in this situation, including yourself.
i also entirely believe you when you say you are fine with and will accept any outcome but your intention is to obtain the lead admin role - i expressed this very casually in this thread once already but I think that's a goal a lot of us have had in the past and a lot of us realized the position isn't all that it's cracked up to be in terms of autonomy or being able to change things in the way you'd desire and that obtaining that role really doesn't matter in the end, Admin or Lead Admin you can effectively do the same exact thing, especially in your role if they decide to axe the lead admin title in favor of an Admin title for now.
that all being said I genuinely personally see no issue with adding you back as admin / lead / mod / whatever and think letting you see where your passion takes you is fine but i'm probably the minority there because a lot of people have an issue with a couple small things that added up
tagging @kevin to close this app with his decision
i agree with you that they know what they wanna do already or probably should, i don't really think you asking for clarification or a decision is that insane but i personally would have just responded to noct's dm again from 4 days ago or whatever he said and been like "yall done deciding yet?", not to hide the fact that you are asking for an update but i don't think public pressure feels good for anyone in this situation, including yourself.
i also entirely believe you when you say you are fine with and will accept any outcome but your intention is to obtain the lead admin role - i expressed this very casually in this thread once already but I think that's a goal a lot of us have had in the past and a lot of us realized the position isn't all that it's cracked up to be in terms of autonomy or being able to change things in the way you'd desire and that obtaining that role really doesn't matter in the end, Admin or Lead Admin you can effectively do the same exact thing, especially in your role if they decide to axe the lead admin title in favor of an Admin title for now.
that all being said I genuinely personally see no issue with adding you back as admin / lead / mod / whatever and think letting you see where your passion takes you is fine but i'm probably the minority there because a lot of people have an issue with a couple small things that added up
tagging @kevin to close this app with his decision
Thank you for adding your thoughts, more in-depth this time.
I absolutely understand where you're coming from on the public pressure front. It is something I considered prior to making my post, but this is exactly one of the mistakes that I'm blocking myself from falling into.
As mentioned either in my app, my responses, possibly both, I intend to be 100% earnest both in public and private, because trying to play good PR just stressed me out. I'd rather be on the level with everybody and have things be open to public scrutiny, than do a bunch of silly politics within private channels and DMs. Decisions made should hold up under scrutiny, including my decision to post as I did.
And let me be clear; I did not post as I did to apply public pressure. I posted because I earnestly feel that there is little value to leaving this open as things stand. The community and I both gain more from a decision being made than leaving it pending, considering that much of what could be said has been said already. I'm open to being told otherwise and entertaining the reasons for differing perspectives, this is my perspective.
Equally, thank you for your insight into the level of autonomy you experienced in the role. I'll take that under advisement as I have the others' similar perspectives, but it does not change my goal. I'll manage my expectations carefully, but I will work toward lead admin all the same.
And thank you for your support <3
