Well the bann is for toxic gameplay, now the reason i got banned was for rdming someone which i had 2 slays added on to me bcuz the staff failed to answer the reports for 3 rounds. So 3 rounds later i had 2 slays on me, which one of the people voice said i rdm him but there was no proof for that, but the last rdm was ridiculous. Ever since i got banned for 5 days for saying a slur, which i understand now i cant say, i have goobers coming up and blocking me in rooms, and ragebaiting me, which im fine with, i can handle it. I think its crazy tho, after these players, voice, smooth, and furry T-bait and rage bait me, i shoot them and i get banned for toxic gameplay. I think theyre the ones being toxic and honestly we would have been fine if i just got slayed.
I forgot to mention that the VIP Furry was the one rage baiting me in the first place, why i even got the bann. Now i get back on and he keeps T-Baiting/Rage-Baiting YET the staff does nothing bcuz he paid $200 for his rank. Isnt that toxic gameplay? Do i need to start recording my rounds?
I have evidence I can provide of the scenarios detailed below, due to how short the ban is and not being home right now it will have to be inserted later in order to answer the appeal now.
I'm not sure what Furry has to do with this. You were banned based on reports from staff on your recent server behavior and 4 rdms you made.
First off, multiple times I've had staff complaining that your attitude on the server has turned toxic including the use of slurs. Generally toxicity bans are 4 weeks, but I don't have direct evidence of every single occurrence so I renamed your mass RDM ban to get your attention.
Your first 2 rdms were on MC Nuke Town, you were reported for incen damage + kills. You stated in one of the reports that you warned before throwing the incen. 2 admins verified via recordings that you had not warned.
Your Third rdm was on Hotline Miami, where you killed a player 0:01s into the round and then claimed you were in danger. When asked what danger you said people were shooting near you. Both the death scene and the shot logs confirmed that there was no shooting, let alone near you.
Your fourth rdm was unreported damage but was for a C4 plant. You kos'd someone for planting and arming a C4 without witnessing either act, which is RDM.
4 rdms is enough to warrant a mass RDM ban. With the reports from staff of other toxic behavior and your lying on reports I rephrased it to a toxic gameplay ban.
You seem to believe you have an issue with players targeting you for door-blocking, have you brought it up to staff via adminchat? The staff have a lot of tools available to see what's going on but most of it is after-the-fact. If you want to have a conversation about how to deal with these issues that won't get you in trouble we can have a chat about avoiding vigilantism and properly documenting and reporting harassment.
I have evidence I can provide of the scenarios detailed below, due to how short the ban is and not being home right now it will have to be inserted later in order to answer the appeal now.
I'm not sure what Furry has to do with this. You were banned based on reports from staff on your recent server behavior and 4 rdms you made.
First off, multiple times I've had staff complaining that your attitude on the server has turned toxic including the use of slurs. Generally toxicity bans are 4 weeks, but I don't have direct evidence of every single occurrence so I renamed your mass RDM ban to get your attention.
Your first 2 rdms were on MC Nuke Town, you were reported for incen damage + kills. You stated in one of the reports that you warned before throwing the incen. 2 admins verified via recordings that you had not warned.
Your Third rdm was on Hotline Miami, where you killed a player 0:01s into the round and then claimed you were in danger. When asked what danger you said people were shooting near you. Both the death scene and the shot logs confirmed that there was no shooting, let alone near you.
Your fourth rdm was unreported damage but was for a C4 plant. You kos'd someone for planting and arming a C4 without witnessing either act, which is RDM.
4 rdms is enough to warrant a mass RDM ban. With the reports from staff of other toxic behavior and your lying on reports I rephrased it to a toxic gameplay ban.
You seem to believe you have an issue with players targeting you for door-blocking, have you brought it up to staff via adminchat? The staff have a lot of tools available to see what's going on but most of it is after-the-fact. If you want to have a conversation about how to deal with these issues that won't get you in trouble we can have a chat about avoiding vigilantism and properly documenting and reporting harassment.
Hello Notorious,
Yeah so I bring up Furry because he was being "toxic" with river. Which you can lookup, is the reason i got the 5 day ban. Which is why I bring him up because I was banned for toxic gameplay. Its fine that you changed the reason to Toxic gameplay ... lets not be silly here, I wasn't the only one being toxic.
I would like to know which staff members were saying I was toxic as well, because I can probably tell you why they think I'm toxic if i can know their names. Truth is I get along great with people on the server and there's only a couple that clearly have it out for me when i logon. Which is totally fine, I participated in trolling others as they did to me.
Now i understand that the reason i got banned. Dont unbann me ill take my punishment. To say im toxic and not provide evidence, other than "staff says", it doesnt really mean anything, because that can be bias, which is what you banned me for. I think there are staff that can vouch for me and say they had a great time playing with me.
Addressing the RDM. Nobody told me I killed anyone with that incen. When i threw it, it was at the door to the T room to get the Ts. I know the rules. and i accept that if i killed someone during that ill take the slay.... I think is shallow for staff not to address the slay, wait 3 rounds, then more things happened which equaled out to me getting a mass rdm ban. All im saying that if the staff did their job non of this would have happened. The fact that there was staff holding that report open for 3 rounds and still playing, not telling me whats going on, sounds like a settup to me, doesn't it? If i was staff, i wouldn't be trying to info gather on someone i don't like and wait for the perfect moment to get them.
The hotline Miami "rdm" yeah the dude was blocking me and the window shattered, so i assumed i was being shot at. Maybe someone crowbar it? Ill admit i didnt know about the warning rule where you have to warn someone to move b4 you shoot them, but there also a rule that if your in danger and someone's blocking you, you can kill them. Now nobody cant say i wasnt in danger bcuz hes legit trash talking me pre round, blocking me in, then the window breaks, and i thought rounds where hitting the wall, but if ur saying no shots were fired then sure im gunna have to believe you on that because i cant see logs, still doesnt change the fact that i was in danger, and you banning me and not explaining it until we get to the forums is crazy too because i thought we were on better terms than that. Did you see if there was rounds shot pre round and right as the glass broke the round started?
For the last rdm the 4th one, I heard him come out of the room the C4 was in, it was clearly him. Right as he armed it, i entered the room and he was walking away from it. Thats enough evidence to kill them, because they didnt report it, or disarm it. Now i get your gunna say "server rules" which i get but its far fetched to say toxic gameplay and rdm, like i said non of this woulda happened if staff answered the reports on time. Did you forget to mention that the person i killed was in fact a T so i was right in the end?
What i dont understand is how nobody sees that the intentional holding of my slays and people messing with me, knowing id have a problem with it, was orchestrated. For you to say im lying on reports when i asked what was going on and who i killed because it was 3 rounds later is crazy. Voice reported me and left the server, nobody even told me what happened with that.
Doesnt an incen burn for awhile before it kills someone? i would like you to check your video you have and see if these people didnt run into the incen to purposely get me in trouble. How does 1 incen being thrown at a door NOBODY WAS AT kill 2 people without them purposely running into it, unless they're low heath, but that wasnt the case because of how early the round was.
Its funny to say,
"You seem to believe you have an issue with players targeting you for door-blocking, have you brought it up to staff via adminchat? The staff have a lot of tools available to see what's going on but most of it is after-the-fact. If you want to have a conversation about how to deal with these issues that won't get you in trouble we can have a chat about avoiding vigilantism and properly documenting and reporting harassment."
Its not easy reporting harassment to admin chat. Chances are you can report something like this and you will get hit with a stupid rules such as "give them warning" but that doesn't address the fact someone can move then keep blocking you and move, then keep blocking you. So there listening and following rules by moving but then blocking again, and can play victim. I dont wanna sit there and report to staff that already are not doing anything for me, because they most likely will say im being toxic and wont do a damn.
Now i understand that the reason i got banned. Dont unbann me ill take my punishment. To say im toxic and not provide evidence, other than "staff says", it doesnt really mean anything, because that can be bias, which is what you banned me for. I think there are staff that can vouch for me and say they had a great time playing with me.
Yeah the stuff said before the screen shot, i know i said the slur and i got banned for it but nobodys asking why i said it. Im not saying i got banned because someone made me say a slur, im saying there was reasons behind it.
ah voice, the one that reported me and left earlier without saying anything about it when i asked you about it, didnt you run into the incen to get me in trouble?
haha i already said i got banned for it and havnt said another slur, go back up to the top and re-read buddy. Nice attempt to make me look bad. Dont act like you never said it before.
Addressing the RDM. Nobody told me I killed anyone with that incen. When i threw it, it was at the door to the T room to get the Ts. I know the rules. and i accept that if i killed someone during that ill take the slay...
The main issue is you stated "I said lookout" which you simply did not do. You caused explosion damage to Prozakk, so he had to have been there during the explosion. Lying on the report saying that you warned also delayed the response time of staff finishing the reports on you
@kevin Blue does bring up a good point, why did you go and stand in the fire 5 seconds after the initial explosion until you died and then report and deny forgiveness on the report?
(spoken to about it on discord, this will be notated on your account and further actions like this will lead to your own toxic gameplay ban)
"I think is shallow for staff not to address the slay, wait 3 rounds, then more things happened which equaled out to me getting a mass rdm ban. All im saying that if the staff did their job non of this would have happened. The fact that there was staff holding that report open for 3 rounds and still playing, not telling me whats going on, sounds like a settup to me, doesn't it? If i was staff, i wouldn't be trying to info gather on someone i don't like and wait for the perfect moment to get them."
You seem to have a wild misinterpretation of the way the mass RDM ban is applied, your RDM count doesn't reset with each map. If they had slain you right after the report came in, or halfway through the next map it still would have counted the same. Also, the reason your report took so long was your claim that you warned. 2 admins went back through their recordings of the round to verify if you had said anything prior to throwing, and there had not been a peep from you that round. If you HAD warned there was a chance that it wouldn't have been RDM and they took extra care not to give you invalid slays.
"The hotline Miami "rdm" yeah the dude was blocking me and the window shattered, so i assumed i was being shot at. Maybe someone crowbar it? Ill admit i didnt know about the warning rule where you have to warn someone to move b4 you shoot them, but there also a rule that if your in danger and someone's blocking you, you can kill them. Now nobody cant say i wasnt in danger bcuz hes legit trash talking me pre round, blocking me in, then the window breaks, and i thought rounds where hitting the wall, but if ur saying no shots were fired then sure im gunna have to believe you on that because i cant see logs, still doesnt change the fact that i was in danger, and you banning me and not explaining it until we get to the forums is crazy too because i thought we were on better terms than that. Did you see if there was rounds shot pre round and right as the glass broke the round started?"
You said you shot him because you felt he was blocking into danger. But:
1) Pre-round trash talk doesn't equate to danger
2) There were no shots when the rounds started
3) Even if there were shots, you were alone in the room you were in, with no windows. There was no way he could have been blocking you in with danger, if anything he would have been between you and danger and killing him would put you in more danger.
4) Even if someone was shooting you, 'danger' does not include getting shot at as per the note on Identifying bodies: NOTE: Point #4 does not apply to the danger of gunfire or other potential damage. The damage must be a guaranteed thing, for instance: traitor traps and incendiary fire count as things that would make it so you cannot ID a body.
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Side note: There is no rule that specifies the need to warn someone to move when in danger.
"For the last rdm the 4th one, I heard him come out of the room the C4 was in, it was clearly him. Right as he armed it, i entered the room and he was walking away from it. Thats enough evidence to kill them, because they didnt report it, or disarm it. Now i get your gunna say "server rules" which i get but its far fetched to say toxic gameplay and rdm, like i said non of this woulda happened if staff answered the reports on time. Did you forget to mention that the person i killed was in fact a T so i was right in the end?"
This was an RDM based on the rules. You can only kill for C4 if you see the person planting/arming it or get DNA from it. This isn't a part of the toxic gameplay ban but the 4th RDM that lead to you mass RDM ban. RDMing a traitor doesn't excuse the RDM. And as stated before, the timing of the staff working reports had no factor on the mass RDM ban.
"What i dont understand is how nobody sees that the intentional holding of my slays and people messing with me, knowing id have a problem with it, was orchestrated. For you to say im lying on reports when i asked what was going on and who i killed because it was 3 rounds later is crazy. Voice reported me and left the server, nobody even told me what happened with that."
I didn't see any messages from you in adminchat from when you were slain or given the slay. The holding of the slays was not intentional, it was done to review the voice and text chat of the log for the warning you claimed you had given.
"Its not easy reporting harassment to admin chat. Chances are you can report something like this and you will get hit with a stupid rules such as "give them warning" but that doesn't address the fact someone can move then keep blocking you and move, then keep blocking you. So there listening and following rules by moving but then blocking again, and can play victim. I dont wanna sit there and report to staff that already are not doing anything for me, because they most likely will say im being toxic and wont do a damn."
As it seems you admit here, you don't say anything to the staff about getting harassed, and then throughout the report you complain that staff don't do anything for you. They don't do anything about the problems that you don't voice to them because they are not omnipresent and don't know what is or is not bothering you. You then make wild assumptions about how they will react to asking for help with no basis. I make an attempt as a staff member to tell you that we can talk about your issues and how to address them on server, and you tell me it's funny and tell me what I'm gonna do and say and that I won't do a damn.
"Yeah the stuff said before the screen shot, i know i said the slur and i got banned for it but nobodys asking why i said it. Im not saying i got banned because someone made me say a slur, im saying there was reasons behind it."
Are you being serious right now? This is something one of my children would say. "he made me do it by being mean to me" It doesn't matter WHY you used a slur, a slur is something you SHOULDN'T say.
You seem to feel you're justified in having a vigilante attitude because you think everyone is out to get you. Without telling anyone what's bothering you you take it on yourself to break the rules and punish people how you feel fit, and then complain that you had a right to do it because nobody was helping you with your problems that you didn't tell anyone about because you already made assumptions on how they would act or react. This IS a toxic attitude and if you continue on this path you WILL end up with a longer toxicity ban. If you would like to talk about better ways to handle the issues you have with other players you can reach me here or on discord. I'll instruct the staff to better document any toxic behavior they experience so that it can be better reviewed for 'bias', but as stated the lack of stronger evidence is why the ban length was 24h instead of 4 weeks so for this case it was already taken into account.
For what it's worth, I do like having you on the server and hope we can find a better path to keep you on the server.
