TTT Maps Purge Megathread

CelDamage

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This is a thread for you guys to voice your concerns about the maps that we have in rotation that are boring, annoying or kill population whenever they get voted on

Similar to the weapon megathread, I will be taking all your suggestions and creating a proposition of what maps should be purged and the reasons why. Once I make the proposition and you guys are happy with it, I will run it by the big guys and hopefully we can cull these dreaded maps for good!

here are the current maps


I will update this thread with the map list once I get it
 
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Northernseas and Albatross are the two worst culprit maps for killing population and are generally just boring, awful maps

I am pretty vocal about wanting MC maps in the rotation, but I also can't deny that the new MC inno motel map is also pretty disappointing compared to its counterpart
 
Northernseas and Albatross are the two worst culprit maps for killing population and are generally just boring, awful maps

I am pretty vocal about wanting MC maps in the rotation, but I also can't deny that the new MC inno motel map is also pretty disappointing compared to its counterpart
this user shouldn't be allowed to make suggestions.


I do not see Albatross being a pop killer, and ive seen users having fun on both North Sea and Albatross more than most other maps. Meanwhile, most MC maps, especially MC recreations of existing maps, are generally boring, janky, and just generally unfun. There is no instance where a MC version of a map is better than its standard source counterpart. The only exception that proves the rule is Nuketown, but even Nuketown is its own creative version of the map. Not to mention i feel like the drowning of a server in MC maps directly lead to a decline of players on AHG, and I'd hate to see that here. Its just boring as hell.


I think we need to remove all MC remakes of maps on the server. We should replace innomotel with Optimal's version. We should replace the ladders on Dolls with the magnetized ladders near the top of the lighthouse on B5. And there is a specific MC map that we should remove but I can't think of the name of it... its a square of a map with no light...
 
this user shouldn't be allowed to make suggestions.


I do not see Albatross being a pop killer, and ive seen users having fun on both North Sea and Albatross more than most other maps. Meanwhile, most MC maps, especially MC recreations of existing maps, are generally boring, janky, and just generally unfun. There is no instance where a MC version of a map is better than its standard source counterpart. The only exception that proves the rule is Nuketown, but even Nuketown is its own creative version of the map. Not to mention i feel like the drowning of a server in MC maps directly lead to a decline of players on AHG, and I'd hate to see that here. Its just boring as hell.


I think we need to remove all MC remakes of maps on the server. We should replace innomotel with Optimal's version. We should replace the ladders on Dolls with the magnetized ladders near the top of the lighthouse on B5. And there is a specific MC map that we should remove but I can't think of the name of it... its a square of a map with no light...
There are multiple documented instances of both those maps killing population, and I can also say that my experiences playing on those maps also solidify the idea that pop significantly drops upon switching to them: https://giantslair.com/threads/maps-that-murder-server-population.1021/. I would love to see some actual statistics/numbers on this pulled directly from the server (not sure if it's even possible) but I'm pretty confident they would corroborate this theory.

I can agree with you though that MC remakes can be replaced with other, fresher maps - they are generally worse than their original counterparts. I would still love to see classics like casino and schoolday in the rotation myself. But I am still a big proponent of keeping "original" MC maps that are popular like city and b5 in the rotation because those are heavy attractors of newer players - more than any other maps from my decade experience of GMod staffing.
 
I'm on the side of removing most of the MC maps, It's not fun when someone mic spams to play MC Motel/Dolls and then after we play regular Dolls,Motel in a rotation. Either more maps need to be added / replace ones that are a population killer or implement the restricted voting feature. Maybe both so we have variety. As far as I know the reason I believe Albatross is a population killer is the spawns, there's always one person who door blocks and you can't kill them until a traitor does something and by that point it's too late cause everyone is shooting everyone
 
We gotta remove the double mc maps like Dolls and such, but do keep stuff like seriouscraft and I forget the name but the one with the "fuck you go die" trap in the middle of the map with the farm.

Also Northsea is fun for like the first minute of the round with the crane, then each round just drags on for another three minutes.
 
i'd rather see the map cooldown extended than have any maps removed, feels like the same 5 get picked over and over again
 
can we rotate out some of the MC maps? it feels like it kills pop and a lot of people seem to dislike them. there's an overwhelming number of them atm
 
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